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years ago in the infamous sniper attacks here in washington. john allen mohammed and lee boyd malvo used that bush master to very deadly target people around the washington area. but as far as we know-- and it's still very early-- as far as we know, that rifle, the bulkier more difficult to maneuver weapon, that rifle was not apparently used-- and i say apparently-- in the attack because it seems to indicate the gunman died with only the two handguns. a trace is still being done by the a.t.f. and law enforcement officials to figure out the origin of these guns. this is standard in crimes and certainly standard in high profile crimes if the dead suspect lanza, if he owned them legally or get them in someone else or if they might have been stolen. at least preliminarily i'm getting indications that these weapons appear to have been his, the gunman. he was 24 years old and was in the age range that made him eligible to have these weapons. we've also been looking through the databases and as far as we can tell lanza did not have a criminal record, does notappear in any government terror watc
, including mcclatchy service and the "washington post." he has been missing in syria since august. in all there are 15 journalists who have reported to have gone missing in syria while reporting on this conflict. so far of the 15 only eight have been freed. our richard and ghazi and john are three of them. we and they and their families feel very lucky and very happy tonight that that is the case, even as we continue to be concerned about those for whom we cannot yet say that foreign correspondents and crews know exactly how dangerous it can be to report from a war zone. we know in part from their reporting that this particular war zone appears to be descending into just total chaos right now. you can see signs of that in the syrian government's apparent decision to fire scud missiles inside its own territory at its own people. they deny they have done it. nato says they have evidence they have. you can see it in the increasing alarm in the increasing reports that the regime may at least be moving its chemical weapons stocks around the country. you can see it in richard's latest reporting
. >> good morning. >> and in washington, msnbc and "time" magazine senior political analyst, mark halperin. >> listen to the song. ♪ waiting for the end of the world ♪ >> good call, kid. elvis costello. "end of the world." >> "end of the world." it's here. no. no, no. >> what's this "new york post" stuff? what's going on? >> i don't know. olympic gold medalist turned prostitute. >> are you serious? >> the thing about the "post," they are always on the pulse. >> exclusive piece or is it in "the times," too? >> here's -- i'm glad it's going on in new york. they're getting ready for the holiday season. >> they've got their eye on the ball. >> i don't know what's going on there. >> let's just throw those away. john boehner had a bad night last night. >> yeah. a picture on the front page of "the new york times" seemed to say it all. >> yeah, my goodness. >> look at his face. >> he said a prayer last night. he undertook a gambit. he decided that he was going to walk away from negotiations and try to get republicans to support a tax increase on people making $1 million or more. without any sp
finding security in benghazi was grossly inadequate to cope with the attack, that washington ignored repeated requests to beef up personnel, and ultimately a lack of transparency, responsiveness and leadership senior levels both this washington and in libya. alise, what do you make of this report. a lot of these findings we've been talking about for a very long time. >> that's right, but also in the last few months, there's been so much politicization of this attack, especially with these talking points and the whole issue of susan rice, ambassador susan rice and what she said about whether there was a protest. this report didn't find that there was a protest, but it also kind of really is the first look at what went wrong, a kind of very sobering look i'd say of what went wrong. and they said that basically the state department and the embassy in libya kind of missed the warning signs that there was an imminent attack coming. there wasn't a specific threat, but a lot of attacks on other western targets that should have been a clue that there was deteriorating security situation and
and washington. >>> i have to warn you, the report you're about to see has some very graphic images of people hurt and dying. the latest from western syria, where more than 100 people were killed today as they waited in line for bread. cnn's mohammed jamjoon is in beirut. >> reporter: a scene filled with carnage. a massacre, screams the man. they targeted the bakery. a bakery where hungry civilians have been standing in line to get bread. one eyewitness outreached via skype to describe the grisly aftermath. >> translator: from 200 meters away, i could see corpses as i walked toward the bakery. bodies piled on top of each other, it was an impossible scene. there was no word to describe it. >> he was one of the first on the scene filmed this video. the wounded are carried away as rebels and civilians dig up mangled corpses from the rubble. shock and grief quickly turned to anger. "where are you, world" ask this man, pointing to the destruction. "come see the bodies. they were waiting for bread." activists tell cnn this town is full of anti-regime sentiment. >> translator: halfaya was liberated
joe" from washington. live with us here, nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports," andrea mitchell. white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein, executive editor of bloomberg news, al hunt and "time" magazine senior political analyst and "way too early" talent -- he was just extraordinary -- mark halperin. mark, you were just -- you were extraordinary. >> no one told me there's no net in that job. >> there is no net. he was great. who could turn the world on with a smile? i mean, mark halperin could, al hunt. >> throwing his hat in the air. >> we need to toss his hat in the air. sam stein has no idea what we're talking about. >> zero. >> so depressed. not a "seinfeld" reference, the greatest series of all time. al hunt, al, this is -- i'm at a loss what's going on in washington. i mean, we can all assign blame. i, right now, am especially curious with what's going through my party's mind on the fiscal cliff. but what -- why the breakdown? you know, if you're a republican, you say, i'll raise taxes. you have crossed the line. you h
. is washington ready for a fight over guns that no one thought would happen? >>> blast from the past. find out what michael dukakis has to say about the idea of being a u.s. senator once john kerry becomes officially the next secretary of state. being a little bit coy. could he run? here comes the new. >>> good morning from washington. it is wednesday, december 19th, 2012. this is the. i'm chuck todd. >>> today could be the day the two sides come together for a big deficit reduction deal or we could be 24 hours from it totally falling apart. that seems like telling you everything and nothing at the same time. but there's something to this. follow me here. the president and speaker boehner have really never been closer to a deal. they both made major concessions over the last i'd say 72 hours. the nation still mourning the tragedy in connecticut. both sides have admitted that the tone of the talks have changed. >> an event like that, as tragic as it is, brings us a little closer together. >> i continue to have hope that we can reach an agreement. it's not a time to put americans through more st
is that? tom foreman is in washington to speculate. good morning. >> reporter: hi, carroll. we don't know what that means. there's been speculation it will have something to do with mental health issues because certainly at a lot of local levels people talked about that on the republican side. people on the conservative side saying that has to be addressed as much, perhaps more than the gun issue itself. so we're expecting that may be the direction to go but the truth is we don't really know. what we do know is that the nra was quiet immediately after this. they often are after such incidents and they usually say as they did this time out of respect for the community and the family involved but now that a little bit of time has passed what we would certainly expect here is that there would be a clear message to the white house and to others which is be careful about overreacting at this point because the nra will push back and certainly they have proven that politically they have the power to do it not only nationally but certainly at the state level. carol? >> tom foreman reporting live
have guards armed with guns of their own. nbc justice correspondent pete williams says s in washington for more on this. can you break down the nra's solution? >> the nra says the answer to combating school violence is simple. it says banks, power plarngts congress, and the president are protected with armed security and the nation's schools should be guarded that way, too. after a week of calls for tighter gun restrictions and signs of a possible shift in public attitudes, about access to the weapons like the rifle used in connecticut, the national rifle association instead called for putting more armed security officers in the nation's schools. the. >> the onlying that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> reporter: the nra's wayne la pierre says children in most schools are defenseless because the schools proclaim to be places without guns. >> they tell every insane killer in america that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk. >> reporter: he took no questions from reporters but was interrupted by protesters. >> shame on the nra!
a criminal background children. we have a piece at the nation.com by our washington reporter which raises the question of whether the nra is really there for gun owners or for manufacturers. it speaks a little to what ben was saying. that they represent and lobby for these gun companies, which are feeling the heat and one hopes that the 2005 law which shielded gun companies from liability regarding gun violence, is looked at very hard. i think the key thing, and joe palafano, the chief domestic policy advisor spoke of in the wake of the tragedies of 1968 the assassination of martin luther king, of bobby kennedy, that johnson and palaphano knew that time is of the essence, and i think that's made even more starkly in light of what we now know about the nra's strategy in the wake of tragedy after tragedy, columbine, virginia, aurora, now. i'm hoping that the political will is strong because the time for meaningful conversation will be with us forever, but the time for political action is now. >> karen, peggy noonan is advocating much the same, actually, in the "wall street journal" saying d
>> schieffer: today on "face the nation," christmastime in washington but not much christmas can cheer at the capitol. old santa tried to reward congressional inaction with a lode of coal, but wouldn't you know there was no one around to give it to. congress skedaddled when the deal on the fiscal cliff collapsed. the national rifle association's top command did stay in town to ask the question we've all been asking. >> what do we do about the tragedy of the sort that struck in newtown, connecticut? >> schieffer: but their response left gun control advocates reeling. we'll talk to the profit n.r.a., wayne keene. and we'll hear from senator mark warner of virginia, and kay bailey hutchison of texas. we'll also talk to the first black senator from the south since reconstruction, newly designated south carolina senator tim scott. plus, we'll hear from actor ben affleck on, among other things, reports he may seek the senate seat being vacated by john kerry. who has just been nominated to be the next secretary of state. >> well, one never knows. i'm not one to get into conjecture. >> s
about it. the only thing being we're relying on our leaders in washington to try to craft some sort of solution. >> did you have quotes around the word leader then? i'm only watching your lips. if you were to type that, would there be quotes around leaders? >> yes. >> thank you. i rest my case. >> i'm willing to take those quotes off. >> if they show that they are truly leaders without quotes. >> i come to work every day, my tallahassee paycheck, still in my wallet. i was a reporter. i made $137 a week. and if i had seen that go down to 127, i would have been angry. that was my subsistence. there are people who play for dinner in this country and their subsistence are on the line and they're going to be furious. but they're not going to get furious until they see their paycheck. >> it's going to impact gdp in the first quarter, and the second quarter. americans are feeling like they're protected from the democrats? because they're in lower income households? but they won't be. their paychecks will be less because the payroll tax cut will be gone. the amt, also gone. that will affect
and it's not clear why she purchased them. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> thank you so much. many here in newtown are heading to church services this morning to seek comfort and mourn the loss of their loved ones. we know 12 little girls and 8 boys were shot to death inside sandy hook elementary school. all of them were either 6 or 7 years old. >> among them was e emilie park. she was an exceptional artist that carried around artists and pencils. her father said he gave her a good-bye kiss the last time he saw her alive. >> six adults lost their lives in this tragedy between 27 and 56 years old. that includes 47-year-old principal dawn hochsprung who was married and had two daughters and three stepdaughters. one parent said hochsprung was always smiling. >> the psychologist had a history of working with disabled adults. she was married for 30 years and loved to garden. 30-year-old lauren russo was hired as a permanent substitute teacher. her mother said she always dreamed of teaching and will miss her terribly and take comfort knowing she had achieved that dream. >> the whole town is g
could do well over the next few months, even if the two sides in washington can't rise above politics and come up with a reasonable budget that has both spending cuts and tax increases and seems to be the case right now after the president's discouraging press conference, which suggested that no deal's imminent. and the white house is quietly saying talks have regressed. what about our failure to revisit what didn't happen, what didn't go wrong and the impact on the market? well, let's start with today's incredible news about general motors buying $5.5 billion worth of stock from the u.s. government's t.a.r.p. program. and it was at a price $2 above where gm traded yesterday. that's right. we, the people, got a better deal than we could've ever hoped for just the day before. gm most likely would have been liquidated, putting more than 1 million people out of work. if the federal government hadn't bailed it out. nobody likes a bailout. people don't like to use the phrase bailout and the government isn't going to be made whole in this investment. i'm saying that point-blank. that's beca
stocking. higher taxes, lawmakers and president obama have left washington for christmas with no deal on tax hikes and spending cuts set to go in effect after the first of the year. brianna keilar is live in hawaii where the president is spending the christmas holiday. brianna, the president maybe a little too optimistic that a deal can be reached? aloha, by the way. >> he did say last night that he is a hopeless optimist that something can get done, but what we know, it's not going to be that big package, obviously of deficit reduction as well as dealing with these tax hikes that are set to kick in. that's not what's going to be happening, instead, he's pressing for something smaller just to a deal with stopping those tax hikes from kicking in for americans making $250,000 per year or less. and also trying to make sure that unemployment benefits are extended. listen to what president obama said last night and also listen to what some of the house republican resistance from speaker boehner to his sort of short-term plan here. >> in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to
right now are planning to make new year's eve plans here in washington, d.c. we're not so sure we're getting out of town yet. >> they should be plans you can cancel if case you have to go right back to work. let me ask a question. jessica says pressure is a great motivator. talk about pressure last night on speaker boehner, couldn't get enough support from his own party for his plan. what does that mean for any kind of bipartisan plan they might be working out? >> it really does illustrate how difficult it is going to be for democrats to even achieve what the president laid out tonight, a scaled down version. the speaker himself said a couple of times today that he believes that the reason why he didn't get even the majority of the caucus to support him was because of a lot of difficulty voting to raise taxes, voting for anything that can be perceived as a tax increase. well, what the president is talking about even scaled down version is definitely raising taxes. and raising taxes on people making $250,000 or more, at least households, so that's going to be difficult to do. that'
victims of friday's shooting massacre while wakes are held for three others. in washington, meanwhile, there are growing signs that the country is getting serious about gun control. during a meeting with top cabinet officials yesterday, president obama directed them to take a hard look at proposals to combat gun violence, and over on capitol hill senate majority leader harry reid joined with two other pro-gun rights democrats to suggest that new gun laws should be on the table. >> we need to accept the reality that we're not doing enough to protect our citizens. in the coming days and weeks we'll engage in a meaningful conversation and thoughtful debate on how to change laws and culture and allow this violence to continue to grow. >> an nra rating of an a, but, you know, enough is enough. my -- i've got -- i'm father of three daughters, and this weekend they all said, dad, you know, how can this go on? and i, like i think most of us, realized that there are ways to get to rationale gun control. >> many republicans, however, remain further away from reform. some are even pushing for mo
. >>> daniel inouye, war hero and long-time senator, is being remembered this morning from washington to his home state of hawaii. inouye was a world war ii medal of honor winner, who lost an arm during a battle in italy. he became the first japanese-american in congress. and served 50 years in the u.s. senate. daniel inouye died yesterday at a washington area hospital of breathing problems. he was 88 years old. >>> and secretary of state hillary clinton is said to be feeling a little more like herself after suffering a concussion last week. two teams of doctors checked her out. even putting her on an i.v. drip for a short time. aides say she is frustrated and wants to return to work. she will be unable to testify at the congressional hearings on benghazi this week. but she may do so down the road. >>> and the pacific northwest is recovering from the strongest storm of the season, complete with blinding snow, drenching rain and damaging winds. 80-mile-per-hour winds toppled a huge tree that crashed into a home in western washington, narrowly missing a baby in his crib. fortunately, that chil
live to washington. the very latest details. >>> and michael phelps' pick for the athlete of the year. this is a surprise. this guy, he never wins anything. good morning. welcome to "early start," everyone. i'm john berman. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. it's nice to have you with us. it is early, 5:00 a.m. in the east. the fury of the first winter storm is making holiday travel very difficult if not impossible. today new england is expected to get slammed by that storm. at least seven traffic-related deaths in four states are blamed on this crazy severe weather. as the storm barrelled through the plains and the great lakes, more than a foot of wet, heavy snow fell in parts of iowa and wisconsin. there were hundreds of flights canceled right at the height of the holiday travel, as you very well know. check this out. power lines sparking. look at that. and snapping. >> holy -- wow. >> and the storm's worst, 400,000 power customers in the region had no electricity. that number was down to 133,000 by yesterday afternoon. rob marciano, you are busy tracking it all at the cnn weather center in a
to be good president -- tend to be good presidents. >> andrea: washington turned down power of king. >> eric: i disagree. it's such a demanding job -- >> greg: but to say, conservatives by nature do not like government. natural inclination not to want to be in charge. >> eric: let me add something to the story. mitt romney blowing it in the last debate, candy crowley. second? second. misinformed, oh, yeah, president obama mentioned it. he wasn't prepared. >> he held back. >> eric: the second debate. third debate. >> juan: it's too complicated. >> eric: i don't -- actually i don't believe what tag said. revisionism. i think romney wanted it badly. the ten debates with the republicans. they got huge ratings for fox. he went all the way through, remember his famous, i bet you $10 million -- $10,000. great moments. 47% and the like. he wanted it. >> andrea: the biggest story it was nonstory. the story that wasn't. the way the economy was. we never heard that story. just romney, the taxes. the biggest story of the year was journalists didn't cover the story. >> greg: throw benghazi in that was we
. >> "the washington post" reports that the president will put vice president biden in charge of the push to start this violence. biden met with the president along with education secretary arne duncan, eric hold and kathleen sebelius to try to formulate a plan. at the same time, perhaps moved by the national move, another plan seems it's taking shape. the deal to stop us from going over the fiscal cliff. speaker boehner and the preside president at the white house. now, the president supports raising taxes on people earning more than $400,000 a year. i want to bring in "washington post" columnist ruth marcus and the national journalist chris freisz. there's a lot owing on, assault weapons ban and the gun show loophole. do you think they're going to take this, how are they likely to approach this? >> well, i think the vice president say very good choice to lead this because of course he was the chairman of the senate judiciary where this legislation goes through for many years. and so he understands a little bit of what's politically possible or, let's cross our fingers, what might hopefu
. >> we know what we have to do. >> this is not a washington commission. >> he supports reinstating a ban on assault weapons. >> weapons of war do not belong on our streets. >> limiting high-capacity magazines. >> the nra is going to be holding a news conference. >> there is going to be an announcement made. >> the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions. >> it is very hard to determine what they mean. >> teachers are not law enforcement. >> we have all the information. >> this is not some washington commission. >> we have all the studies. >> time is of the essence. >> we have to do something, the american people want us to do somethin something. >> it is hard out there, being a boehner. john boehner has gone from refusing to consider any tax rate increase. any tax rate increase at all to refusing to consider any tax rate increase without spending cuts attached to it. to now asking his members to pass a tax rate increase without any spending cuts attached to it. john boehner's plan b, which he wants to bring to a vote tomorrow, is simply a tax increase on incomes over a million
children. parents can no longer take no for an answer from washington when the topic turns to protecting our children. entrenched special interests are going to try to muddy the cause in the coming days. the cause of this sickening mass shooting, like the others, is no longer a mystery to commonsense americans, and blessedly, there are more commonsense americans than there are special interests. even if it doesn't always seem that way. i say good luck to the gun lobbyists, good luck to the hollywood lawyer who tries to blunt the righteous anger of millions of parents by hiding behind twisted readings of our bill of rights. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. the first funerals today are for 6-year-old jack pinto and noah posner whose twin sister was in another classroom and survived the shootings. nbc's michelle franzen joins me now from fairfield, connecticut, where jack pinto's funeral is now underway. michelle. >> well, that's exactly right, andrea. we are here in fairfield about 30 miles from sandy hook where noah posner's burial services are underway. they began abo
, it is washington. and it is a lot at stake. it is about people's taxes, and, you know, the social safety net in america. it is the difference between democrats and republicans. >> yeah. we're going to talk more about the money now. thank you, jessica yellin. appreciate it. to new york now, joining us rick neuman, chief business correspondent for "u.s. news & world report." i want to ask you about the tax increase if there is no deal and tax rates rise, when would workers begin to see that reflekr reflected in their paychecks? when does the pain start? >> this is not one tax hike. this is about nine different sets of taxes. and the one that would go up right away is the payroll tax. that was cut temporarily in 2 009, cut by two percentage points and will go back up by two percentage points and that would come out of workers' paychecks right off the bat. it would add up to something like $60, $70 a month for the typical worker. we hear about all the tax rates that are going up, that actually wouldn't involve money that is in people's pockets until they actually pay their taxes or do their tax
home. bob orr is in washington with more on the investigation. good evening, bob. >> reporter: good evening, jim. as new details emerge, the scope of the horror explains. gunman adam lanza apparently sprayed two classrooms at sandy hook elementary school with relentless fire from a semiautomatic assault rifle. it was a massacre, and most of the victims were first graders. autopsies on the bodies of the children revealed that many, if not all, had been shot multiple times. wayne carver is the chief medical examiner for connecticut. >> i only did seven of the autopsies. the victims i had ranged from 3 to 11 wounds apiece and i only saw two of them with close-range shooting. >> reporter: investigators believe most of the bullets came from a bushmaster 223 assault rifle. it was one of four guns adam lanza took from the home he shared with his mother after he shot and killed her. sources say he left one gun in his car and then forced his way into the school, carrying the assault rifle in his hands and two semiautomatic pistols in the dark military-style cargo pants he was wearing. inside
you very much. president obama challenging washington to do something about gun control. >> summon even one tiny iota of the courage that the teachers, the principal in newtown showed on friday. >>> finally, some real answers about the benghazi attack that killed four americans. we now know more than reason for the grossly inadequate security. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we begin with president obama's call to action against what he calls the national epidemic of gun violence amid the trauma over the newtown school massacre, he has put vice president biden in charge of the agenda that could be submitted to congress next month. and a growing number of americans want action from the government. a brand new poll shows that 52% of u.s. adult dults favor major restrictions on guns, making all guns illegal versus 47% last august. let's turn to our white house correspondent brianna keilar. she's joining us. the president came out and didn't mince very words. >> reporter: no, wolf. this is the first time that president obama has laid out a time line. he appointed vice
in this, i guess what will be a battle down in washington? >> well, anderson, you and i were at grace mcdonnell's funeral today, and you saw the monsignor say at one point that he couldn't wait until these 40 parents were unleashed on washington, and he looked our way. i -- i think every parent is going to take their own time to figure out whether they want to be part of this process of change and what they believe the change should be. but i have a feeling that the majority of these parents are going to be marching on washington. are going to be demanding change, whether it be more help for the mentally ill or developmentally disabled or stricter gun control, and they're going to be the best spokesman for this issue because they want to make sure that these 20 kids' memory doesn't just vanish from the scene. there's something good that can come from this, and once the grieving process is over, i do think we're going to have one of the most powerful lobbying forces that this country has ever seen in the parents and relatives of those that were killed last friday. >> senator-elect chris m
connecticut governor dan malloy. we'll talk about what washington can or should do about guns with new york democrat chuck schumer. plus, a panel of experts and opinion makers. this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: well interesting gets worst with every new detail and we'll get into some of that, but here is the latest. authorities have released the names of the 28 victimes, including 20 first grade student, six adult women who worked at the school. the president will attend a memorial service later today. he will visit with the families. many of the early details about what happened were wrong. we are now getting a better handle on what did happen, but so far no one seems to know exactly what motivated the shooter, 20-year-old adam lanza. we're going to begin our coverage with the spokesman for want connecticut state police, lieutenant paul vance. lieutenant, thank you so much for finding time for us. you said something yesterday that you thought the search of the various crime scenes had been
as we go throughout connecticut, georgia, california, washington state. i mean, it is really a powerful, powerful thing to process. >> and we know that even, obviously, people who are most directly involved are going to having the highest impact and greatest impact on them. but, yeah, you are right. the people more remote that have been watching it, learning about it, talking about it, there have been studies on this and find that there is a component of post-traumatic stress even in those populations. we are talking about children here. we typically think about post-traumatic stress in adults. but even after virginia tech, for example, after a few months later, 15% of people who were involved -- went to colleges, who -- watched this very closely, still had some component of it. 77% of students at virginia tech had it. obviously much higher in the people most -- >> 77%? >> three to four months later. it is significant. there's a couple of things to keep in mind. one is that the quicker some of those symptoms and signs are recognized and dealt with, the much better prognosis people have.
for these kids by handing out $100 gift cards to use in the aisles of walmart on washington boulevard. >> a lot of times people aren't able to afford different things at christmas time. so we're trying to extend our hand as much as possible. >> reporter: he started the 281 foundation during his sophomore year with the ravens and the entire idea behind the foundation is to give back to under privileged kids. 75 of the best and brightest students were chosen to stop. >> give a whole lot extra in class every day. and you should be rewarded for that. >> reporter: while video games and beauty products may be on the minds of many. >> how much is that, do you know? >> reporter: some say it's a good lesson in budgeting. >> usually i don't look at prices because i am a teenager. now it's his money and my money i am spending. i am going to like look at the prices now and like make it all fit and make it work. >> reporter: boldin's foundation does this every year. and much of it is made possible through donations. vic, back to you. >> thank you. and the ravens are hoping for their own christmas gift this
to a compromise? we go back to cnbc's eamon javers who joins us from washington with all the details. good evening. >> reporter: good evening, larry. you're right, they did meet today. it was a surprise meeting not announced as the previous meetings between the two men have been in past weeks. so we know that the meeting lasted about 45 minutes and that treasury secretary tim geithner also attended. what we don't know is whether the two men came to any deal or not or advanced the discussions in any way today. what we do know is that up here on capitol hill, senator harry reid, the democratic leader, suggested to his fellow senators that they might consider coming back on december 26th, the day after christmas, to finish up the fiscal cliff which suggests to you that they might be heading down the path toward a deal, although that is not set in stone. meanwhile, over at the white house, the press secretary, jay carney, was asked about where the president stands on the fiscal cliff. and he did his best to give as invasive an answer as possible and keep the negotiating wiggle room open. take a listen
schmitt in washington. the president made this surprise late appearance yesterday. he urged republicans to approve, i guess what you might consider a stripped down deal. this all happened around dinner time. so a lot of folks might not have seen it. give us the details. what is he proposing? >> well, i have to tell you, a few minutes ago, president obama landed in hawaii, 72 degrees there was the temperature on the ground. certainly warmer than it is in washington, certainly warmer than the political climate that president obama left behind here here in washington. it was a strip down agreement. he basically is saying we have to come up with some solution to help the majority of american taxpayers while we still avoid coming up with the majority of the details for what was supposed to help us avoid the fiscal cliff. it would ensure tax rates would not go up for 98% of americans, it would also ensure that unemployment benefits would be extended for about 2 million americans who would lose them otherwise if we went over the fiscal cliff. finally, it would work to lay the groundwork for th
to our economy. not right now. >> coming up, who do americans blame for the stalemate in washington? good afternoon to you. i'm craig melvin. you are watching msnbc, the place for politics. this hour we are going look at the big picture. what's happening on capitol hill right now and how congressional leaders are working with the white house. plus, what it all means for your paycheck as higher payroll taxes are only days away unless congress acts. one step forward, two steps back. president obama and republican lawmakers have been dancing that waltz for six weeks now, but the music stops when the countdown clock at the bottom of your screen runs out. so where do fiscal cliff talks stand at this critical hour? nbc's kristen welker is on the north lawn and luke russert are both following developments this saturday afternoon. kristen, i'll start with you. any indication at this particular point as to what's happening behind closed doors this afternoon? >> reporter: well, i think most of the action is going on in the hill where staffers with majority leader reid and minority leader mcconnell
in washington. the people of newtown are strong. they are a people of great faith, they are a small knit community. they will not retreat from this. in many ways, they will get stronger, and they will want us to make sure not that we use this, but that we learn from it and make ourselves a better society, a safer society. it's an important discussion to have and we will have it. as one who has been fortunate enough to represent newtown for 14 years in the state senate, i'm going to make sure that we have that discussion on many fronts. >> sir, do you think that newtown is ready to be used as a national example of why we need better gun regulation in this country? as unfortunate as it seems to politicize this heinous act, as young parents across this country, future parents across this country want to know that their children are safe when they go to school. do you think the town of newtown is ready to carry the burden of knowing that it needs to be used as an example? >> well, thomas, they are carrying an incredible burden that none of us want them to bear and they don't deserve. i don't
in washington, president obama has spoken to this issue before today. he has been called to speak to it mostly in response to tragedies like today. but when you look at his remarks combined over time in full, it's just a remarkable chronicle of not just what he has said. what he said must be done. but it is a remarkable chronicle of what has not yet been done. >> it is part of our nature to demand explanations, to try to impose some order on the chaos, to make sense out of that which seems senseless. already we've seen the national conversation commence, not only about the motivations behind these killings, but about everything from the merits of gun safety laws to the adequacy of our mental health system. and much -- much of this process of debating what might be done to prevent such tragedies in the future is an essential ingredient in our exercise of self government. >> i hope that over the next several days, next several weeks, and next several months we all reflect on how we can do something about some of the senseless violence that ends up marring this country, but also reflect on all th
in the whole vietnam war. so let's get to cnbc's washington correspondent john harwood to talk about how washington will handle the gun control issue. i guess that's what we'll talk about this time. we have a lot to talk to you about involving washington. i guess the lead, obviously, we would be talking about boehner, too, at some point, john. do you have comments on the gun control issue? >> well, i think you saw in the president's address last night, a politician who had been deeply impacted by what happened, like the entire country has been impacted. and i think it is changing the calculus, the way he looks at political risk on this issue. democrats, as you know, joe, for some time has shied away from pushing gun control out of the believe that it is a loser for them politically. republicans have done well when democrats tried to push the gun control bill. there is a broad swath of public opinion that favors things like bans on assault weapons and high volume magazine clips for weapons. i think the president is saying -- when he said on friday, even, before the speech last evening, he
. i want to get to washington with some of the latest headlines regarding speaker boehner and what eamon is referring to as plan b. >> what we know is the speaker is in the basement of the capital building here right now, meeting with republican lawmakers to brief them on the status of the fiscal cliff negotiation, and what a gop leadership aide is now telling news news is the speaker is now prepared to offer what he's calling a plan b, or a modified plan b in which we don't do the grand big deal that the president and speaker of the negotiating on, but instead do something much smaller that would eliminate the pending tax increases for all americans, the speaker saying that he would like to have some kind of a deal, a modified scaled-down proposal now that would eliminate those for as many people as he can. the details are very sketchy on what modified plan b actually means in practice. but basically, it's something he can keep in his hip pocket right now in case these negotiations with the president don't bear fruit. and presumably what we're talking about here, carl, is a little
wanted people to remember his daughter has a kind and caring big sister. >>> let's get you to washington. with congress home for the holidays, a deal on the fiscal cliff looks less and less likely. that could be mean coal in the stocking for house speaker john boehner and the end to his two-year reign as republican leader. he's facing pressure from his own party after his plan b failure. he proposed a vote on the plan to allow taxes to go up on millionaires, but republicans had to pull it off the table after admitting they can't get it passed. foorn illustration check the latest poll, and that's what we have political editor paul stein hauser doing? >> americans are worried about the tax increases and spending cuts that will kick in at the end of the year. 7-10 questioned in our cnn/orc national poll say there would be major problems or a crisis in the country if that happens. >> part of what voters were looking for is some compromise up here. that's what folks want. >> and our poll indicates more americans want the republicans rather than the democrats to compromise more to reach bipart
millbank, columnist from the washington post. thank you both for being here tonight. >> thank you, reverend. >> colin, let me go to you first. is mayor bloomberg right? is the nra's power overrated. >> >> absolutely. you can look back at this past election we just had. the amount of millions of dollars they spent in races across the country and they have nothing really to show for it. ask senator elect tim kane from v virginia? they swung hard and he's coming to d.c. realize that the nra is not the all-powerful lobby that everyone thinks it was. we're realizing that any special interest is not as powerful as the american people who come together and make their voices heard and get out raged. and that's what we've seen. it's been overwhelming, the response we've had, from republicans and progressives and from everyone across the country. when you see images like that of little kids, that shakes your humanity, no matter who you are. no one wants to see that. now we're realizing that we've got to no longer do what's in the best interest of a lobby and and industry but what's in the best intere
to hold a major news conference in the washington, d.c. area on friday, december 21. after the newtown massacre, democratic congressman released this statement, i have been largely silent on the issue of gun violence over the past six years, and i now am as sorry for that as i am for the families who lost so much in this most recent, but sadly not isolated tragedy. i will not be silent any longer. joining me now, congressman john yarmouth, congressman, you have been in congress for six years from kentucky. difficult place to be elected from if you're on the wrong side of the nra. what do you believe the congress should do now and what are you prepared to support in congress? >> well, there are many things i'm prepared to support. the things the president has talked about. the re-institution of the assault weapons ban. limitation on high capacity magazines. the -- eliminating the gun show loophole. all of these things are very common sense things. actually things that the membership of the nra supports, which is ironic. most of these things are things that can have an impact, but more i
at the raw numbers they've changed quite a bit. this is a nbc "washington post" poll. 54% favor stricter gun control laws and 59% support banning high-capacity magazines. we heard from joe manchin and joe warner, both with a-ratings with the nra. to ruth's point, chris, is there a chance that republicans could help to move them as well? >> well, i think so. i think we have seen that on the fiscal cliff issue. and the feeling here at the capitol, i've put the question to them and said, if gabby giffords, a congresswoman one of your own was almost fatally shot, and congress didn't react on gun control, what has to happen after this new event? this has changed the tenor. i was talking to a democratic leadership aide to made that point and also made the point when you have harry reid, if you remember in 2010, a tough re-election. the nra king just short of stopping him saying he was a friend of the second amendment. you have joe manchin and now mark warner. those are moderate democrats. they help bring republicans on board. maybe we would see movement. >> i want to bring in congressman yarmouth.
, proposals that i then intend to push without delay. this is not some washington commission. this is not something where folks are going to be studying the issues for six months and publishing a report that gets read and then pushed aside. this is a team that has a very specific task, to pull together real reforms right now. i asked joe to lead this effort in part because he wrote the 1994 crime bill that helped law enforcement bring down the rate of violent crime in this country. that plan -- that bill also included the assault weapons ban that was publicly supported at the time by former presidents including ronald reagan. the good news is there's already a growing consensus for us to build from. a majority of americans support banning the sale of military-style assault weapons. a majority of americans support banning the sale of high capacity ammunition clips. a majority of americans support laws requires background checks before all gun purchases so that criminals can't take advantage of legal loopholes to buy a gun from somebody who won't take the responsibility of doin
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